Azor Ahannister & The Others That Were Promised

Hyrkoon the Hero, Art by Jordi Gonzalez Escamilla

Hyrkoon the Hero, Art by Jordi Gonzalez Escamilla

Azor Ahannister

In The Icebrandon, we explored how Bran is Jaime’s anti-hero and has already flown an ice dragon with translucent ice wings.  The entire Song of Ice and Fire series is set into motion by the conflict between Jaime and Bran. Their conflict frames opening of the series when Jaime threw Bran off the tower and it will conclude it as the two most of the most powerful beings on Planetos battle for the dawn. With the pompous kingslayer… as the good guy? And sweet innocent little Bran as an anti-hero?!

We are in for a ride folks.

In Brienne “The Beauty” and The Lightbringer and Valunquar Prophesies we discussed how Jaime will fulfill both the Valunqar and Azor Ahai prophesies by ultimately sacrificing Brienne “The Beauty” who casts Cersei down, taking everything Cercei holds dear (Jaime) after her kids die. UnCats trans-mortal lifegiving power is absorbed into the sword making it magic. Lightbringer is not a sword of heroes (plural) just because AA wields it. It is a sword of heroes as Briennes’ soul, a true heroes soul, is inside the steel fighting alongside Jaime.

GRRM’s version of our stories hero will not be a perfect knight. No. Quite the contrary. Instead he will be more like the devil.

”The devil gave humans critical thinking, which God didn’t want. He wanted us to not eat from the tree of knowledge of whateverthehell so we could basically be thought-slaves for eternity, but the devil did us a favor and turned the tables there with a single conversation.

Also, the devil killed a grand total of 10 people in the bible, while god killed somewhere around 2.3 million. He understands human nature, but doesn’t judge you for being human. He accepts god’s unwanted children unconditionally. And still, he’s the dickhead. Why? Because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero. He’s our silent guardian. A watchful protector. A dark knight.”

-Martin Ristov

The name Lucifer came to be regarded as the name of Satan before his fall. GRRM may flip the trope of Lucifer and the devil instead of having him be the bringer of light and then fall, he will take a fallen knight like Jaime and have him rise like the dawn. Jaime, a knight seemingly with shit for honor, will bring light back into a dark world. But what is light in a dark world? This will not be Frodo vs. the Orks. This will be closer to 50 Shades of Greyscale.

As a flawed man, he is the best stand-in for Westerosi humanity, as he is himself in much need of redemption as Planetos is.

What’s in a name?

The name Lightbringer means Lucifer in Latin. Lucifer literally means the “bringer of dawn.” The Valyrian word for “Lord of Light”, Aeksiot Ono is almost identical to the word for “goldenhand” which is Aeksion Ondos. Jamie Lannister is Azor Ahai reborn, the embodiment and champion of the Lord of Light, his face “shining with light, golden and beautiful.” Meanwhile Hodor is a part of Bran, Hodor is Brans legs and second skin. Hodor is the Norse God of Winter which is the name of the Great Other, he whose must not be spoken. More evidence that GRRM is strongly influenced by Norse mythology and Ragnarok in particular is that Edda, the root for the name Eddard is the name of the texts that comprise the major store of Norse mythology.

The Valyrians never tried to contact or conquer Casterly Rock. Septon Barth claims to have read a text that “the Freehold’s sorcerers foretold that the gold of Casterly rock would destroy them.” It is the golden sword hand of Azor Ahannister, the Lord of Light’s champion reborn, embodied in Jaime Lannister who destroyed House Targaryen with his swordhand. The swordhand that is missing.

What is the sound of one hand clapping? What is a swordhand without a swordhand?

Jaime Lannister a darker shade of white knights, but he is still pearly white compared to wight knights. Bran sees him in his prophetic dream “armoured like the sun, golden.” There are plenty of hints comparing Jaime to radiance, sunlight, brightness and beauty. It was said that his ancestor Lann The Clever “stole gold from the sun to brighten his hair.” Prometheus, another trickster figure in Greek mythology also stole fire from Zeus and the gods and gave it to mortals. Just so, Jaime Lannister, Azor Ahannister steals fire and share it with us mortals, giving his life ultimately to save us all.

Jaime redeems a human world, that when you look at it often isn’t so redeeming. His relationship with Brienne is beyond will they, won’t they get together. What he gets from her is far more meaningful. He will never marry. It is not about Brienne becoming his girlfriend, although she may or may not become that. Their relationship is something far deeper. House Lannister sent an army of 10k men to their doom to get back their old sword Brightroar. A Valyrian steel sword is worth more than an entire army and Jamie just gave up a Valyrian steel sword to her.

This is a change in his compass, in his values. No longer to House. But to honor, justice and true chivalry. Honoring virtues of what it means to be a true knight. It represents faith in humanity for a young man growing wanting to become Ser Arthur Dayne, an idealistic knight but instead became a glorified bodyguard denied a chance to prove himself and becoming jaded after being forced to endure countless hours of Aerys’ madness and violence and then Roberts drunken whoring. “It was that white cloak that soiled me, not the other way around.”

But that is not how Jaime is introduced to us. GRRM paints him as a pompous ass with shit for honor, killing the king he swore to protect, planting his ass with a sword still dripping with blood from Aerys’ on the Iron Throne when Ned took the Red Keep. And Jaime threw an innocent boy out of a tower window to protect his sisterfucking habit from being known and have him become the champion of light. He is the champion of light in a dark world.

Let’s explore that twincest for a moment. Radio Westeros has great episode on how Jaime and Cersei are two halves of one whole. Thus when AA sacrifices Cersei, he is sacrificing a part of himself.

Jaime is only universal hero of the story. The only character to transcend the duality of supporting good and fighting evil. Not battling the evil slavers for the good downtrodden slaves. He saved the sinners and the saints alike and never took credit publicly. Saving more people than anyone else in the story, by far by preventing the 500k citizens of Kings Landing from burning alive.

Azor Ahai made 3 attempts at forging lightbringer.

  1. Tempering it in water
  2. Tempering it through the heart of a lion
  3. Forging it  through the heart of his love.

Here is how the reforging can happen:

  1. Lady Stoneheart/unCatelyn = Water. Brienne may forge it by killing LSH.
  2. Jaime is the valunquar that kills Cersei, perhaps choking her with the chain of Hand of The King.
  3. Jaime kills/sacrifices Brienne with her soul being absorbed into the blade that ignites it.

Brienne will probably kill Lady Stoneheart as Cate promised in her vow to Brienne that she will never ask her to “do anything to bring her dishonor” as opposed to Jaime doing it as he vowed never to raise arms against Stark and Tully (Hat time Radio Westeros). Lady Stoneheart represents water as she is a Tully or a Fish of Riverrun, and she was reborn on the water of the Trident. The sword shattered in water when AA tried to forge it. I don’t know if Valyrian steel will shatter going through unCat but the ultimate power of Lightbringer is that it absorbed the soul of Nissa Nissa (Brienne) and that was the magic that set it alight.

One of the most important things that happens in the killing Lady Stoneheart is the absorbing of her trans-mortal reanimating force. She is a shell of a woman, a vengeful spirit without a soul. But Nissa Nissas soul bonding with the sword is the magic that kindles the sword. As Lady Stoneheart that doesn’t have a soul, when Brienne stabs her through the heart it will capture the immortal life reviving energy Berric and (the “Red God?”) gave Lady Stoneheart and that is the foundational key to recreating Lightbringer. It is very odd that Red Priest Berric would give her his firey kiss of life in water. Something is up and this rebirth for LSH goes beyond fire magic.

Jamie may be reborn amidst the bleeding star of the Poor Fellows. Their sigil is a seven pointed star. When Jamie goes to the trap Lady Stoneheart has made for him with Brienne the Poor Fellows may attack the R’hlorist Brotherhood Without Banners, thus making the red star bleed.

The Five Azor Ahai’s and The Others That Were Promised

There are five names for Azor Ahai: Hyrkoon the Hero, Azor Ahai, Yin Tar, Neferion, and Eldric Shadowchaser, thus there may be five different people and infections he may be reborn as. Those five heroes plus the Prince That Was Promised and the Last Hero add up to seven. The Seven. The addition of R’hlor(/and or the Lord of Light) make nine or ten. If you add the three heads of the dragon to the mix then it becomes twelve or thirteen. King of Winter (the ice dragon) brings it to thirteen, fourteen or more that were prophesied.

Flower Flowers:

A Gilly is a flower. Gilly Flowers = Nissa Nissa.

For example Samwell is called “Lord Ham” (born amidst smoke and salt) and his Nissa Nissa is Gilly which is a name for a flower. She is also Craster’s bastard and on her way to the Reach. In the Reach bastards are named Flowers, thus Gilly is named Flower Flowers, just like Nissa Nissa. A wife so nice they named her twice. Gilly is clutching a baby named “Monster” which is a very ominous name. This child may actually turn out be some kind of a monster when Night falls.

I think Sam will wield Heartsbane which is an incredibly powerful Valerian steel sword unmatched in the realm. His father Randyl Tarly was the only one to beat the undefeated Robert Baratheon with his war hammer. GRRM has made Sam to be a craven but he is the bravest of them all, the only one to ever defeat an Other. This is all a fakeout to get us off his trail.

“I don’t even know your name.” “Gilly, he called me. For the gillyflower.” “That’s pretty.” He remembered Sansa telling him once that he should say that whenever a lady told him her name. He could not help the girl, but perhaps the courtesy would please her. “Is it Craster who frightens you, Gilly?”

-A Clash of Kings – Jon III

“Who are you?” Jojen asked the girl with the baby. “Gilly,” she said. “For the gillyflower. He’s Sam. We never meant to scare you.” She rocked her baby and murmured at it, and finally it stopped crying. Meera was untangling the fat brother. Jojen went to the well and peered down. “Where did you come from?”

-A Storm of Swords – Bran IV

I think there are at least three Azor Ahai’s and Nissa Nissa’s. Jamie with Brienne, Samwell with Gilly and Dany is the Nissa Nissa for whoever gives her the Hammerhorn of The Waters.

What is Dragonsteel?

The first long night was a period long before complex metallurgy. Many people suggest it could be (a reworked) dragonglass combined with iron similarly to how we invented steel in the 13th century BC when iron and charcoal are combined. it may be a reworked dragonstone, but what if it is none of these?

What if Dragonsteel is made (in part) with ironwood charcoal?

Commonfolk need a weapon against Others. We have very few Valyrian swords and limited dragonglass. Not enough to defend the realm of men. Ironwood is a type of tree with black wood (think dragonglass) that is incredibly strong, even against metal weapons & found in northern Westeros & the lands surrounding Castle Yronwood in Dorne which is “well timbered” according TWOIF. The others hate light, warmth iron and fire, all things represented by a burning Ironwood “sword.” Maybe after centuries they forgot the iron they hated was Ironwood. We haven’t seen iron kill an Other.

When burned, ironwood gives off a blue flame. Where else have we seen a steel sword of blue flames in the series? Jaime’s dream.

The fire took on the color of the steel itself so it burned with a silvery-blue light… Brienne’s sword took flame as well, burning silvery blue. The darkness retreated a little more. “The flames will burn so long as you live,” he heard Cersei call. “When they die, so must you.”

Dragons are firemade flesh. Daenerys notes that Viserys was not a true dragon, “as fire cannot kill a dragon.” What is wood that cannot burn out or resists burning and gives off an eerie magical flame? Ironwood… Dragonwood.

In the officially licensed TellTale game they keep mentioning they the ironwood is hard to burn and when burned, ironwood gives off a blue flame. It may then be somehow worked to become a “steel” of a pre-advanced metallurgy.

I think that the bigger secret to dragonsteel is that it is not made with the fire from the dragon, but the fire of the dragon. It’s the lifefire of the dragon, it’s soul, that is the secret to dragonsteel.


26 thoughts on “Azor Ahannister & The Others That Were Promised

    • I just launched the blog less than a week ago so we are starting with none. We have been getting enormous traffic, but I think many people are afraid to be first.

      You can’t see them because they haven’t posted many. So feel free to comment 🙂


          • Not that easy, mostly because you get overwhelmed by the sheer size of it. I would suggest editing the about page to include a summary for each part(if i do not desire to read each one) and if possible one overarching introductory post that show all your ideas together(or atleast your biggest ones, like icebrandon, JS is the nights king and Azor Ahannister


            • So you have read 4,722 pages of ASOIAF, and ~60-90 pages of analysis to figure out what those 4,722 pages meant, is too much?

              If you read Dunk and TWOIF add several hundred pages to that count.

              Most of the early ones have summaries at the bottom.

              Winds of Winter isn’t out until Brandon flies in 2016 at the minimum. You have time to catch up.


              • Well, if i were to follow the sensefull aproah and read many theories, and then decide which one i like best it will amount to much more than 60-70 pages. I would guess that i already have read an equal amount of theories and discussion as the books themselves, because i like it. But I see no reason for having to read 70 pages of one persons views, instead of reading 3 pages, of the persons summaric views, and then deciding if i think it is worth reading all 70 pages.


  1. Just to mention.
    Have you ever considered Jaime and Cersei are actually, son and daughter of Aerys the Mad?

    Cersei is becoming absolutely mad and obsessed with fire, and Jaime KILLED Aerys II. So there’s a huge hint#1, as Tyrion also killed his own father.
    After killing Aerys, He was found sitting on the Iron Throne.hint#2
    And finally, the huge spoil: Jon’s 1st impression:
    “Jon found it hard to look away from him. “This is what a king should look like”, he thought to himself as he passed.” hint#3

    SO, here is a giant massive boom: If Cersei is not a Lannister, there must be a Lion near… may I heard Tyrion? Place your bet.


    • More evidences found in greek mitology:

      Apollo, son of Zeus, twin of Artemis:
      “The ideal of the kouros (a beardless, athletic youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of music, truth and prophecy, healing, the sun and light, plague, poetry, and more. Apollo is the son of Zeus and Leto, and has a twin sister, the chaste huntress Artemis.”

      Wait, did Cersei hunted any Deer?

      Zeus > Aerys II
      Jaime > Apollo
      Cersei > Artemis


      • GRRM has set up the conflict between the two. By making Jaime reveal Tysha was his true wife. Tyrion may start the conflict on dragonback. But by that time I think Lighbringer would be forged already.


      • GRRM draws from many different mythologies. Not just Norse ones.

        Apollo is god of music, truth and prophesy…. Rhaegar on his harp. He was a depressed person because he had the gift of prophesy. He had visions and thought he knew what was coming.

        If only.


    • I will take your bet, and I will double it. Tyrion killed Jaime’s father… and Jaime killed Tyrion’s father. Tyrion is half dragon, half lion. Aerys slept with Joanna Lannister, wife of Tywin Lannister.


      • There are rumours that Joanna had given her maidenhead to Prince Aerys the night of Jaehaerys’ coronation, and briefly became Aerys’ paramour after he ascended the throne himself.

        Tyrion is the younger of three 😉


        • If you read TWOIF they clear up the timeline to make Jaime and Cersei less likely and Tyrion more likely.

          They may all be bastards. That may be the point of why all Cersei’s kids are bastards.


        • The capturing of a lion I think is your strongest argument. But Cersei was captured by the Faith. She is under house arrest I believe. The High Sparrow let her go to The Red Keep. Not sure if that means not anywhere else as she is still under trial.

          Remember that I mention this for my next post, Azor Ahai labored in the temple. Cersei is captured by the temple.


      • So my theory is that Jaime will kill LSH, Tyrion will kill Cersei (is the valonqar), carried by anger Jaime captures and kills Tyrion, and then kills Brienne. Done, all prophecies matched.

        Jaime dresses in white as Kingsguard, with a beautiful golden armor and golden globe. An white and gold dragon would be fine for him.


        • Robes of white and gold are always cold, but a dragons fires are warm.

          There are four fire dragons (3 + one beneath Winterfell), at least three ice dragons, making at least 7 dragons for riding.

          There is only one Lightbringer. Only one Lord of Light. Only one Azor Ahannister.

          I have a mega-theory coming out on Lightbringer and Dawn, with 12+ new theories that make up the post.

          And when I get to who the third rider of the fire dragon will be… shocked. Your jaw will hit the floor. And then you will think it is almost obvious 🙂


  2. Jaime said he will kill Tyrion if he sees him again ( captured and killed lion). Plunge his sword in his lover (Cersei) for killing someone he cares about maybe Brienne.
    My question is how will he be born of salt and smoke?

    I like this theory. So many all over the Internet have Jon Snow as AA. I think he is ice.


    • See my King Aemon Targaryen post on Jon.

      We don’t know how the smoke and salt will turn out. Some say it is the smoke of Harrenhal and the ham Roose served them. Renly said to Stannis, born amidst smoke and salt, what are you a ham? They also had smoked ham on the show.

      I think it will be Brienne’s body smoking and Jaimes own tears. But it is up in the air.

      I have megapost coming with the strongest evidence for him being Azor Ahai yet.


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