Men Are Children of The Forest… Not First Men.
Bran’s fist curled around the shiny black arrowhead. “But the children of the forest are all gone now, you said.” “Here, they are,” said Osha,-A Game of Thrones – Bran VII
“Men, they are the children.“
-Leaf to Bran, A Dance with Dragons – Bran II
We are the world. We are the Children.
This post is about a very different kind of stolen identity.
This is the secret of propaganda:
To totally saturate the person, whom the propaganda wants to lay hold of, with the ideas of the propaganda, without him even noticing that he is being saturated.
Victors in war do not write the histories.
The Power of History: The Trees Remember, But The Maesters “Forget.”
If you aren’t accurately included in those histories… then you’re history. No one will ever know the better. Not until it is too late.
You know nothing, Children of The Forest.
Not even that you grow up to be men.
Men are not First Men, they were not first in most anything. Maesters included men are “the Children of The Forest” in the history books so we wouldn’t know what actually happened and how to defend themselves from the coming Long Night.
Maester’s snuck in this change to confuse men because they are working, knowingly or unknowingly on behalf of the Great Other. As they wear grey cloaks it might point to them being Others in glamour.
How can you fight an enemy if you don’t know who you are? How can you figure out where you are going if you don’t know where you came from? If a world-ending cataclysmic apocalypse is coming, who will you turn to? The maester’s books tell you go to go to the people who purportedly can save you but they turn out to be the enemy themselves?
In case of emergency, please kindly make an appointment to hand over the Ring of Power to your local Sauron representative.
This is why George is so astonishingly brilliant, the message is to look within yourself. We are our own Children’s Children..
Here is Leaf speaking to Bran about their name:
“The First Men named us children,” the little woman said. “The giants, called us who dak nag gran, the squirrel people, because we were small and quick and fond of trees, but we are no squirrels, no children. Our name in the True Tongue means those who sing the song of earth. Before your Old Tongue was ever spoken, we had sung our songs ten thousand years.
– A Dance with Dragons – Bran II
Notice she did not say “your people” named us “children.” She used the third person “First Men.” Starks are supposedly the quintessential “First Men” House. Starks founded the first “First Men” House. Leaf of course knows this, yet Leaf gives an answer in the third person. That is because First Men are probably Deep Ones as life originated from the sea, or some Other kind of magic life form.
Is most interesting that Leaf mentions giants being the ones to name them without giants ever being brought up by anyone. If giant’s called these tiny people squirrels, compared to them, a giant would see a human the size of a child. “First Men” are really the Children of The Forest. The giants ruled, he who rules, names. Giant’s also have men. They are rumored to make halfling babies with humans as well. Again pointing to the fact men were not the “first.”
Here is the money quote with Bloodraven addressing Bran and leaf chiming in.
I was born in the time of the dragon, and for two hundred years I walked the world of men, to watch and listen and learn. I might be walking still, but my legs were sore and my heart was weary, so I turned my feet for home.”
“Two hundred years?” said Meera.
The child smiled. “Men, they are the children.“
“Do you have a name?” asked Bran.
“When I am needing one.” She waved her torch toward the black crack in the back wall of the cave. “Our way is down. You must come with me now.”
-A Dance with Dragons – Bran II
Leaf did not say “like children” or “a child”, Leaf didn’t joke Bloodraven was just a baby. She said “the children.” “The” refers not to something general but it has a particularizing effect.
GRRM gives you clues but packages them in way they wouldn’t seem to be so. The response “when I am needing one” also points to being Faceless. More on that in the next post.
Though the men of the Seven Kingdoms might call them the children of the forest, Leaf and her people were far from childlike. Little wise men of the forest would have been closer.
– A Dance with Dragons – Bran III
If something is repeated at least 3 times by GRRM, as this has it is a clue from GRRM that this is something to take notice of. But he always packages this code in something that most would not take notice of, especially on the first read and if you are not attuned to looking for these kinds of clues.
Bran’s fist curled around the shiny black arrowhead. “But the children of the forest are all gone now, you said.”
“Here, they are,” said Osha, as she bit off the end of the last bandage with her teeth. “North of the Wall, things are different. That’s where the children went, and the giants, and the other old races.”
Maester Luwin sighed. “Woman, by rights you ought to be dead or in chains. The Starks have treated you more gently than you deserve. It is unkind to repay them for their kindness by filling the boys’ heads with folly.”
-A Game of Thrones – Bran VII
She told Bran the truth. That men are the Child of The Forest, according to the maesters books. And for that Luwin threatened her with death. This is a secret the Citadel does not want out.
Combine that with Marwyn’s death threads and you can see there are some deadly secrets inside the walls of the Citadel.
Men could not be “First” Men if there are “older races”, not older species but races. Races are the same species you might be able to mate with. That precludes men being “first.” Especially when we know there are immortal beings walking about which clearly would be older then men, Men are not the First Men. We are the Children. We just don’t know it.
As soon as Osha mentioned that there were older races than First Men, it threw normally mild mannered Luwin into a fit rivaled only by when Old Nan talked about magic. There is something about magic that the Citadel does not want known. Magic is how men can defend themselves in the Long Night. They don’t want that.
Here they are, “the other old races” Osha implies as she bit herself, with her teeth pointing to her own self. Pretty ominous stuff.
Brandon of the Bloody Blade is a legendary son of Garth Greenhand (a separate post will look into who he is). He is credited for driving the giants away from the Reach and warring against the “Children of the Forest’s” slaying so many of them at Blue Lake it became known as Red Lake. But unless it was a blue puddle it would not get all red because the “Children” are tiny and very few in numbers. But men on the otherhand…
The Magical Men of The Forest
Here are a list of some of the magical things associated with The Children of The Forest
- Having power over the beasts of the wood and the ability to wear an animal’s skin.
Arya’s connect with and can control her direwolf .Nymeria over an entire oceans. Nymeria has put together a giant wolf pack currently roaming the Riverlands. We have not seen Children have this kind of power, aside from knowing the speech of ravens, which is not necessarily power over.
That’s called skinchanging and warging. We have seen no Children of The Forest do that. Quite the contrary, they have gone out of their way to bring over humans capable of doing that to work for them. The tree is a tool. It is a tool of the Children. Men are a means for an end for them… we have the means, they don’t.
- The skill to create music so beautiful as to bring tears to the eyes of any who heard it.
“Rhaegar the prince had taken up his silver-stringed harp and played for them. A song of love and doom, Jon Connington recalled, and every woman in the hall was weeping when he put down the harp.”
-A Dance with Dragons – The Griffin Reborn.
Rhaegar may be a special case for reasons that will be discussed in the next posts in this series, but music to bring tears to the eyes is not literally something only of Children. Unless this is a metaphor for the Hammerhorn of the Waters, my blog post on Euron’s horn that Daenerys will sound to bring the apocalypse. The sounding of that horn to bring the Long Nightpocalypse. And this will bring about something very, very, very surpassing that I will talk about at the end of the series after the Night’s King is revealed.
The Hammerhorn of the Waters is probably more likely be the song that GRRM talks about that wakes us weep. If humans are the Children of The Forest and the horn belongs to the Ironborn of House Goodbrother then that history is true.
- The green sight
“Your blood makes you a greenseer,” said Lord Brynden to Bran.
“This will help awaken your gifts and wed you to the trees.”
-A Dance with Dragons – Bran III
Bran’s human blood, not the Children’s blood made him a greenseer. Why else would they need Bran and go to all of this effort to bring him over? It is because they need human greensight, not because they have it themselves.
- The ability to speak to the dead.
“The children of the forest could speak to the dead, it’s said. But I can’t.”
-A Clash of Kings – Jon II
When Arya puts on the mask of other people, she has their memories, that in a sense is communicating. Just as when Bran looks through the weirwood. The biggest way Bran can communicated with the dead will be in a future post. He didn’t need the Children to do it.
By seeing through the trees it is a one way visual time machine.
But It is one way communication… unless you are Brandon Stark. That is why they went to so many hurdles to get him. Because the Children of The Forest couldn’t do it themselves. Men have power and magic that gods do not.
They needed him, his blood and his magic… cause they ain’t got it.
- It was the children who carved the faces on the weirwoods to keep watch over the woods.
This is what Children look like:
They had nut-brown skin, dappled like a deer’s with paler spots, and large ears that could hear things that no man could hear. Their eyes were big too, great golden cat’s eyes that could see down passages where a boy’s eyes saw only blackness. Their hands had only three fingers and a thumb, with sharp black claws instead of nails.
-A Dance with Dragons – Bran III
On Planetos, just as with on Earth, we make our Gods in our own image. There are no references to gigantic disproportionately large eyes in the trees that would be a remarkable thing to mention and weirwoods have been observed countless times. This is a carving of men made by men, who are Children.
The CotF are called squirrels, but Bran and Aryanare both referred to as squirrels by Ned. Beans hands shook like a “Leaf” when he woke after his fall.
The Children are associated with darkness. A world uninhabitable and dark for humans would be perfectly find for someone who can see in the dark and tolerate cold.
Let’s say it was the supposed Children of The Forest carving them as the legends says and they are not gods etc. Why would the ungodly Gremlins of The Forest carve the faces of the people who supposedly brought upon them genocidal near-apocalypses and almost drove them into extinction… twice?
Simple. They didn’t.
Bran. Remember who you are.”
-A Clash of Kings – Bran VII
“Daenerys. Remember the Undying. Remember who you are.”
-A Dance with Dragons – Daenerys II
“Talk to me,” said one of them. He was the smaller of the two, a thin boy, but clever. “Do you remember who you are?”
The fear came bubbling up inside him, and he moaned.
-A Dance with Dragons – Reek I
We are beasts that have forgotten that we are all children that have grown. A small man can cast a large shadow Aemon said to Tyrion. Tyrion is after all the “giant of Lannister.”
Neither direwolf, nor dragon, nor kraken are in positions where they do not remember who they are. In the case of historical identity, how can you remember something you never knew? We are the wrong beasts.
But will we learn in time to look within ourselves before it is too late?
Winter is coming.